ثُمٌّ

In the saying مَا لَهُ ثُمٌّ وَلَا رُمُّ [He has not ثُمّ nor رُمّ], the former of these two nouns signifies water-skins, or milk-skins, and vessels; (M;) or what is bad, or the worst, of those things, (S, K,) according to ISk; (S;) or men's household-goods, or furniture and utensils, and their water-skins, or milk-skins, and vessels; (T, TA;) which last is the right meaning: (TA:) and the latter noun signifies مَرَمَّةُ البَيْتِ [apparently meaning, according to analogy, (for I find no suitable explanation of it in any of the lexicons,) the means by which a house, or tent, is put into a good state; and therefore, good furniture and utensils]. (ISk, S, M, K.) You say also, مَا يَمْلِكُ ثُمًّا وَلَا رُمًّا, meaning the same: (S, TA:) or he possesses not little nor much: it is not used save with a negation. (M, TA.) An Arab of the desert said, جَعْجَعَ بِىَ الدَّهْرُ عَنْ ثُمِّهِ وَرُمِّهِ, [thus in some copies of the S, and in the TA, in which latter the last two nouns are expressly said to be with damm, but in two copies of the S, in this instance, erroneously written, ثَمِّهِ وَرَمِّهِ,] i. e. [Fortune has debarred me] from its little and its much. (S, TA.) And hence the saying of the vulgar, جَاءَ بِالثُّمِّ وَالرُّمِّ, except that they pronounce both these nouns with kesr, meaning He brought little and much. (TA.)